Friday, June 26, 2015

Equality

     In case you haven't heard...

     Gay marriage is now legal in the United States.

     I'm so proud.

     I'm gonna go buy something rainbow and wear it to work today so I can tell everyone who comments on it.

     While we celebrate, let's not forget that this was a huge milestone, but we still have many more to go before everyone is treated the same. Let's keep fighting for equal rights for all.

14 comments:

  1. I'm sure a lot of people are happy about this, but conservative people, while supportive of all having equal rights, are not happy that this union of gay people is considered marriage. A very controversial topic!

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    1. I plan on writing a whole Tough Topic on this in the near future, but I have to leave for work in 45 minutes and only just got out of bed. If you have views different than my own, please explain them to me so I can have a better understanding of another opinion.

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    2. Here's my concern. I think there may be issues with crossing the lines between Church and State. Will religious clergy be forced to marry gay couples, even if it conflicts with their religious beliefs?

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    3. Thank you for explaining your side!

      I agree that it could pose some problems for people, but I think it's something that will be taken care of as time goes on (as with most imperfect things). I agree with Janie. Anyone (of consenting age) should have the legal right to be married, but any church who doesn't want to hold the ceremony should have the right to refuse. The people have the right to be married or not and the church has the right to do the marrying or not. In that way, it's fair to all. I would personally prefer that all churches be open and accepting of it, but logically I know that's not going to happen.

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  2. My beloved friend Carol says that we should not have same-sex marriage because the Bible says that marriage should be between a man and a woman. I don't like to upset Carol, who is in her seventies, so I just say that churches can do as they please and refuse to conduct a marriage ceremony, but everyone should have civil rights. I also pointed out to her that when you single out a group of people for different treatment, it's just like racism (Carol is black). When I speak openly about same-sex marriage, I always say that people shouldn't pick and choose what they want to follow in the Bible. There's a verse that says if your children misbehave that you should kill them. I don't see anyone going on TV to promote that. Those laws are from the Old Testament, which was replaced by the gospel of the New Testament. Jesus said, Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, and strength, and Love your neighbor as yourself.

    Jesus never says that we shouldn't have same-sex marriage. Many stories in the Bible are taken out of context and were written when life was very different. We must take history into account. There was a problem with pedophilia in olden, golden times. That's one of the reasons for some of the rules in the Bible.

    Love,
    Janie

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    1. I agree 100% and will be including all of the in the big post I plan on writing. I'm not asking anyone to agree with people being straight, gay, bi, pan, curious, trans, or whatever else there is. You don't have to like it, but it's not hurting anyone so you shouldn't hold them back from it either. You don't like women who wear makeup? Oh, so you're gonna ban that? No? Because it's their body? Damn straight.

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    2. I think we should let people be as long as they aren't hurting anyone.

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    3. This is supposed to be the land of the free, after all.

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  3. YYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSS! It was a great day, not just in granting people equal rights, in treating two gay people, who have been together 50+ years, the same as a straight couple who have been together 20 minutes and find themselves in a Vegas drive-thru wedding chapel, but also in making that massive bag of gas, Scalia, lose his mind twice in a week.
    And in opposition to Sherry's comment, which contradicts itself in one gloriously twisted sentence (conservatives want equality...but not for gay people?) I don't see any controversy to this at all. You either support love and happiness or you're in favor of discrimination. I guess that's controversial somehow?

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    1. I don't really want to start a debate here. As long as everyone as being nice, I would like everyone to express their own personal views. While I do agree that Sherry's comment is confusing, I would like to hear her thoughts in deeper context so maybe I can understand (even if I don't agree).

      I saw the picture of two men who are in their 90's on their wedding day. I think it was 50 years for them. It was so adorable. The got to see equality start to become real for the LGBTQ+ community.

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    2. I understood what Sherry meant. Conservatives say they want certain things, such as equality, but they want to pick and choose which people can be equal. It's similar to what I said in a longer form. Pickleope, do not pick on Sherry. If you don't understand, then ask. Don't criticize before requesting an explanation, and even then, it's often a good idea to keep your pickle shut.

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    3. Oh shit. Don't piss off Mama Janie. She will cut you. (I mean, me too, but I've never seen her in action before.)

      I understand what you said, but I don't understand how it's still equal rights when you're picking and choosing who gets the equal rights.

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  4. We both have a blog crush on Janie. She's pretty awesome.

    This is great news. We're both supporters. All I'll say is this... I hate this mentality that anyone who's against gay marriage is a discriminatory, hate-mongering bigot. Like they're some kind of cartoonish villain twirling their mustache while they figure out how to thwart "the gays" because they just can't STAND love and happiness. "Grrr! Love makes me SO MAD!"

    My brother-in-law is gay. And when he came out to my mother-in-law, who was born in Mexico, raised Catholic, not overly educated, a bit conservative, etc, she didn't understand. She thought he was acting out. That this couldn't be real, because he seemed so "normal." He explained everything the best he could, as did my wife, and they did so with love, kindness, and patience. Now my mother-in-law realizes that he's not flawed, and she's a huge supporter. And guess what? At no point in time, even when she "opposed" gayness, was she ever some evil, hate-mongering asshole hellbent on discriminating against him. She just didn't understand.

    I'm not conservative. I support gay marriage. I just think if we want more of these so-called "conservatives" to accept homosexuality and to understand why it's important for gay people to marry, that maybe it should be explained with love and kindness and patience instead of "HA HA! WE WON, YOU STUPID HATE-MONGERING BIGOT! GO FUCK YOURSELF!"

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    1. She is pretty awesome.

      I completely agree that most people who are against gays or gay marriage don't understand it. Most. There are still some assholes in the world that are just straight out evil- those are the ones who attack gays physically or emotionally. The ones who don't understand it don't go out of their way to hurt anyone because, despite not sharing the same beliefs or knowledge, are still good people.

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